McBride & Son Homes wants to build 15 homes on the 4100 block of DeTony st in the Shaw neighborhood and tear down two abandoned multi family buildings.
Preservation Board Agenda
Preservation Board Agenda
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The first building shown to be destroyed appears to be in fine condition and I love the stone trimmings around the windows.
Looks like a good one to me. All brick homes, blending with the neighborhood, front porches, etc. It should add some density to the neighborhood. Hope it gets through.
2 fall down old homes for 15 nice new brick homes? Lets see this one pass, because its a good project.
Generally looks good. The two houses to be torn down aren't really worth keeping, and the homes, as long as the guidelines are followed, should look good. Hopefully the city will hold McBride and Sons to the standards tightly. I am also glad to see that the homes on the block worth keeping are being kept, and hopefully renovated.
If they can pull this one off, then more power to them!
I drove through there recently, and that has got to be one of the creepiest blocks around! Talk about an "Urban Jungle". The whole block is totally overgrown. You can't even see the highway, and the abandoned buildings are sprouting trees like something out of Stephen King.
If suburban developers are ready to tackle blocks like this one, then that must really mean that "The City is Back!"
I drove through there recently, and that has got to be one of the creepiest blocks around! Talk about an "Urban Jungle". The whole block is totally overgrown. You can't even see the highway, and the abandoned buildings are sprouting trees like something out of Stephen King.
If suburban developers are ready to tackle blocks like this one, then that must really mean that "The City is Back!"
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As long as the new homes are not some schlocky looking faux-historic design, I'm all for it. Although I do love the existing homes on DeTonty.
several things really bothers me about the design of these homes. One, the porches. Those round wooden pillars don't seem to blend well with the block, and the proprotions appear all wrong. More could also be done to decorate the rooflines. They are very boring. Also, from a historic district point of view, they look too out of place and the details are unbalanced. The scale of the buildings looks ok from the pictures, but the details are boring and conservative.
If they do a good job though, DeTonty could look as good as it does between the Vandeventer exit going east towards Tower Grove. It's a very nice couple blocks. That should be their goal, to replicate that neighborhood.
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Trent mentions the blocks of DeTonty in the Southwest Garden neighborhood (west of Tower Grove Ave.) as inspiration for those in Shaw (east of TG).
There actually is a modern infill building among the multi-family flats on DeTonty, west of Tower Grove Avenue. The newer building blends in as a two-family townhouse with similar scaling, massing and materials as its four-family flat neighbors. In fact, you have to slowly walk by each one, and you still may not be able to see which one it is.
There actually is a modern infill building among the multi-family flats on DeTonty, west of Tower Grove Avenue. The newer building blends in as a two-family townhouse with similar scaling, massing and materials as its four-family flat neighbors. In fact, you have to slowly walk by each one, and you still may not be able to see which one it is.
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Wow! This sounds almost too good to be true! Can they really sell new homes on this block for $350,000? I guess we'll find out.
The architectural features mentioned in their website sound terrific. And they're brick on all sides!
The architectural features mentioned in their website sound terrific. And they're brick on all sides!
What intrigues me most is the 32' wide lots and detached garages. Now that is a city block!!!! Congratulations Millennium.
While other developers are screwing up our city with wide lots and attached garages Millennium and Killeen get it. Thank you...
While other developers are screwing up our city with wide lots and attached garages Millennium and Killeen get it. Thank you...
Wow - that looks fantastic. My wife and I are looking at houses this week and have some interest in some on Castleman which is just two blocks south of this development. That definately makes me feel a little more secure about Castleman, that they would be investing so much money in property north of it and also sell them for so much.
Shaw is really just a beautiful neighborhood.
Shaw is really just a beautiful neighborhood.
I noticed they cleared out all of the overgrowth along the highway. It really opens-up the block and lets in a little light. I never thought I'd be so happy to get a better view of a highway!
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Nice plans...I really like the style of these homes, and best of all, NO VINYL SIDING!!!
Thanks for the update. The homes look very attractive and will help stablize the north border of the neighborhood. Things are moving in the right direction.
Sean
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This looks great - DeTonty and Lafayette are highly visible, and in many ways were a microcosm for the decline of the city over the past few decades. For many people - commuters, travelers, etc. - those are the only homes in the city they ever see, and those two streets could not give off a worse impression. It will be great to see both sides of the highway cleaned up and looking good once again.
Very nice. Despite the fact that, nationally, the housing market has cooled off, St. Louis' comeback continues all over the city. Glad to see such high quality projects in a neighorhood with such high potential.
P.S. Kudos to the city for demanding higher quality construction in line with the historic district rules. These 17 high quality homes look much better than the 15 "botanical heights" homes proposed by McBride. Way to keep our standards hight!
P.S. Kudos to the city for demanding higher quality construction in line with the historic district rules. These 17 high quality homes look much better than the 15 "botanical heights" homes proposed by McBride. Way to keep our standards hight!
It looks like a single-family homebuilder in St. Louis is finally starting to get it. While I prefer more contemporary infill myself, these are really nicely designed, as if they spent some time working on the details. I'm pleased and shocked all at the same time.
I wouldn't praise the city for holding developments to a higher regard...look at the Hyde Park houses. This is the case of a developer who cares more about the area, and will put more money into quality development than just spitting out some homes for people to buy. This is the kind of development that moves a city forward.
Granted, I would like a little more bold design, something unique to the area, but it will fit in well, and those should sell easily.
Granted, I would like a little more bold design, something unique to the area, but it will fit in well, and those should sell easily.
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What do we call the architectural style of those buildings?
I have not seen many similar ones but they do look sorta like Arts & Crafts. Is this a St. Louis variation?
I am refering most to the detailing on 4118 DeTony which I have seen elsewhere in the City. Tile roofs & stone trim around windows and connected
I have not seen many similar ones but they do look sorta like Arts & Crafts. Is this a St. Louis variation?
I am refering most to the detailing on 4118 DeTony which I have seen elsewhere in the City. Tile roofs & stone trim around windows and connected
Marmar wrote: and best of all, NO VINYL SIDING!!!
Are we SURE there's not gonna be vinyl siding? It sounds like brick is only required on the front facades and the sides "visible from the street". Just because they show all-brick on the rendering doesn't mean that's what all the homes will have.