^It will hopefully be an increasingly diverse range of housing products for a variety of buyers with variable tastes and lifestyles.
Renderings and more renderings on the website.
Lots of details and facts about the project. The project's cost has risen to nearly $400-million according to one report though.
Here's the website: The Plaza at Noah's Ark.
[Since the original website was taken down, so were the original renderings. As a result, I removed the broken picture links.]
Lots of details and facts about the project. The project's cost has risen to nearly $400-million according to one report though.
Here's the website: The Plaza at Noah's Ark.
[Since the original website was taken down, so were the original renderings. As a result, I removed the broken picture links.]
Im glad that they are still planning on the "ShowMe Aquatics pool & exercise facility"... I think it would have been very easy for them to drop this... and its one of the few things that makes me happy about this project (except the whole 18+ story building which is awesome)
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http://www.cullprop.com/
http://suburbanjournals.stltoday.com/ar ... _1.ii1.txt
New developer takes helm of Noah's Ark
By Rachel Kaatmann
Saturday, July 28, 2007 10:46 AM CDT
With Tuesday night's approval from the St. Charles City Council, developer Greg Whittaker has turned over the $395 million Plaza at Noah's Ark development to Peoria, Ill.-based Cullinan Properties.
Council members voted 8-0 in favor of a bill reassigning the development agreement with Whittaker to Cullinan. Council members Laurie Feldman, Ward 3, and Michael Weller, Ward 5, were absent.
The move also transfers to Cullinan a $55 million tax increment financing subsidy approved earlier this year by city officials.
The development is to be constructed on the former site of the Noah's Ark restaurant and hotel, at South Fifth Street and Interstate 70.
The change in developer will mean small design changes for the new-urbanism development, but the same development agreement will stay intact.
Jeff Giebelhausen, president of Cullinan, told the council he plans to make only "tweakings to make it better for the regular market."
"We think it's right on target," he said. "We are not seeking any major modifications."
Those changes include:
> Reducing the height of a residential tower to about 13 floors instead of 18. The bottom three floors would house retail offices.
> Reducing the number of floors in the hotel to nine or 10 instead of 13.
> Reducing the number of parking decks from six to five, with one of the parking decks beginning on the second level to provide more retail space.
> Moving the movie theater planned as part of the project to the second floor to provide more retail space.
> Most buildings would be about five stories, except for the hotel and residential portions.
> Eliminating a cut-through road in the development to provide a pedestrian walkway.
Plans include about 345,000 square feet of retail space, 133,000 square feet of office space and now about 788 condominiums.
Giebelhausen said Whittaker approached his company about developing one of the major blocks of land on the site, but plans evolved.
"We didn't think we would do it right unless we were involved with all seven blocks (of land)," he said.
Councilman Dave Beckering, Ward 7, voted for the bill even though he said he was disappointed Whittaker had turned over the project.
"I am very disappointed (he's) walking away from this," said Beckering, who was elected in April. "The $55 million TIF was supported probably because of Mr. Whittaker."
Whittaker is the developer of The New Town at St. Charles, a new-urbanism development north of Highway 370.
Giebelhausen said demolition of the former Noah's Ark restaurant and single-family homes could begin as soon as Labor Day.
A general timetable includes demolition on the 26.8-acre site to occur during late summer to early spring, with the hotel fully cleared by late January; beginning site construction in spring 2008; and completion of the project by summer 2010.
http://suburbanjournals.stltoday.com/ar ... _1.ii1.txt
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Noah's Ark Demolition Party Set for August 29
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/s ... enDocument
as ugly and run down as this thing is now, it was a relic of my childhood as it always symbolized coming home (first thing you saw coming west over the Blanchette bridge).
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/s ... enDocument
as ugly and run down as this thing is now, it was a relic of my childhood as it always symbolized coming home (first thing you saw coming west over the Blanchette bridge).
Local news: the loss of a St. Louis landmark???
Where's Carolyn Toft when you need her?
The motel portion was especially attractive.
St. Louis natives in my office are solemn today -- just trying to hold back the flood of memories and tears.
Where's Carolyn Toft when you need her?
The motel portion was especially attractive.
St. Louis natives in my office are solemn today -- just trying to hold back the flood of memories and tears.
New plans with some new renderings. Looks like they plan to open this project in 2010.
Cullinan Properties: The Plaza at Noah's Ark
Cullinan Properties: The Plaza at Noah's Ark
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Big difference.
Very post-modern but I personally liked the historic architecture and wonder if anything was lost in the design for greenspace and landscaping?
Very post-modern but I personally liked the historic architecture and wonder if anything was lost in the design for greenspace and landscaping?
The rendering with the hotel being around 25 - 30 stories is the old one... in the site plan, the hotel looks to be much shorter, MAYBE 10 stories... but like BPV its impossible to tell until the real plans are made public.
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It's hard to say based on the renderings, and I think it would be a bit disappointing to see things scaled back, but it looks like this is still going to be a great project.
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Ground broken on development in St. Charles that includes stores, apartments, theater
By Tim Bryant
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
11/17/2008
ST. CHARLES--Executives of Cullinan Properties and elected officials tossed some dirt today in the ceremonial groundbreaking of what in two years is scheduled to be completion of phase one of the Streets of St. Charles mixed-mixed use development.
READ MORE HERE
By Tim Bryant
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
11/17/2008
ST. CHARLES--Executives of Cullinan Properties and elected officials tossed some dirt today in the ceremonial groundbreaking of what in two years is scheduled to be completion of phase one of the Streets of St. Charles mixed-mixed use development.
READ MORE HERE
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Looks like this project went from new urbanism to new suburbism. How sad they scaled this back. I sure hope the City of St. Charles rejects this new proposal! 
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/busine ... enDocument
ST. CHARLES — The Streets of St. Charles, which would be among the region's largest mixed-use developments of homes and businesses, is stalled. And city officials are unhappy.
Work halted soon after the mayor, City Council members, civic boosters and the developer gathered Nov. 17 under a heated tent to cheer the project at a ceremonial groundbreaking. The development is supposed to rise where the Noah's Ark restaurant once stood, along Interstate 70.
Now the developer, Cullinan Properties, of Peoria, Ill., has submitted a new plan officials say is drastically different from the $385 million New Urbanist design envisioned for at least three years.
Council member Laurie Feldman said she doubts she can back the new plan. "I supported this whole project because of its New Urbanism approach to development," said Feldman, whose 3rd Ward includes the 27-acre site. "New Urbanism is supposed to hide parking under buildings or underground. In New Urbanism, you're not supposed to see parking. I saw parking."
Bruce Evans, the city's community development director, said the new plan eliminates high-rise buildings, reduces green space and calls for less-dense residential development.
"It just doesn't follow New Urbanism," Evans said. "In my opinion, it is radically different than what they originally planned."
The City Council wants to meet with Cullinan executives Tuesday to discuss the project, which is to benefit from $55 million in tax-increment financing.
The development agreement between the city and Cullinan has various deadlines to complete infrastructure before the company gets TIF money. The council could extend, alter or even cancel the agreement, said Evans, adding that Cullinan needs to act soon or it will begin missing deadlines.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/busine ... enDocument
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STLToday wrote:
Revised plan for site now in controversy
st. charles, development, bulldozer, st. louis post-dispatch
A bulldozer sits on undeveloped land where Noah's Ark once stood and where the now-stalled Streets of St. Charles project of apartments and stores is planned to be built. (By Christian Gooden/P-D)
BY TIM BRYANT
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
05/04/2009
ST. CHARLES — The Streets of St. Charles, which would be among the region's largest mixed-use developments of homes and businesses, is stalled. And city officials are unhappy.
Work halted soon after the mayor, City Council members, civic boosters and the developer gathered Nov. 17 under a heated tent to cheer the project at a ceremonial groundbreaking. The development is supposed to rise where the Noah's Ark restaurant once stood, along Interstate 70.
Now the developer, Cullinan Properties, of Peoria, Ill., has submitted a new plan officials say is drastically different from the $385 million New Urbanist design envisioned for at least three years.
Council member Laurie Feldman said she doubts she can back the new plan. "I supported this whole project because of its New Urbanism approach to development," said Feldman, whose 3rd Ward includes the 27-acre site. [/b]"New Urbanism is supposed to hide parking under buildings or underground. In New Urbanism, you're not supposed to see parking. I saw parking."[/b]
I missed one gem of a quote from the article, from the president of the firm developing "The Streets of St Chuck."
Because we all know multilevel buildings = urban.
"Absolutely it's New Urbanism," he said. "It's multilevel buildings. It's a mix of office and retail. It has all the same components."
Because we all know multilevel buildings = urban.
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Sounds like this project has devolved from its once-promising design into another sea of sameness that would look right at home in Earth City or Westport Plaza.
If St. Charles leaders are wise they'll reject this, but in this economy, I get the feeling that they won't be choosey.
If St. Charles leaders are wise they'll reject this, but in this economy, I get the feeling that they won't be choosey.
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I posted this already.
http://www.urbanstl.com/viewtopic.php?t=2519&start=75
Its sad they couldn't build what was originally planned and totally revised it.
http://www.urbanstl.com/viewtopic.php?t=2519&start=75
Its sad they couldn't build what was originally planned and totally revised it.
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This project is being cut back again, still "new," just less "urbanism":
St. Charles Continues Struggle With New Urbanism: Noah's Ark Ambitions Cut Further:
http://www.stlurbanworkshop.com/2009/11 ... h-new.html
St. Charles Continues Struggle With New Urbanism: Noah's Ark Ambitions Cut Further:
http://www.stlurbanworkshop.com/2009/11 ... h-new.html
There's something fitting about the old Noah's Ark site in St. Charles being converted to a New Urbanism community. After all, the Ark was built to provide everything needed for pairs of all the world's animals and enough people to repopulate the globe and any New Urbanism development seeking to bring a "live, work, play and pray" lifestyle to community is certainly some place I could stay for 40 days and 40 nights without needing to venture further afield.
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The "Streets of Saint Charles" sounds like a really boring cop show.
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Cullinan Properties Ltd.’s St. Charles Noah Development LLC, owner of the $385 million Streets of St. Charles development, has purchased nearly three acres of land from ShowMe Aquatics & Fitness in a deal that closed Nov. 12....
But the stalled project was reignited with $40 million in bonds from St. Charles.
Read more: Streets of St. Charles buys 3 acres from ShowMe Aquatics | St. Louis Business Journal http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... acres.html
But the stalled project was reignited with $40 million in bonds from St. Charles.
Read more: Streets of St. Charles buys 3 acres from ShowMe Aquatics | St. Louis Business Journal http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/news ... acres.html
LOLRoger Wyoming wrote:The "Streets of Saint Charles" sounds like a really boring cop show.
Several new tenants including Five Guys Burgers and Fries and MassageLuxe have been announced for the Streets of St. Charles Development.
See more here: http://thestreetsofstcharles.com/2011/c ... t-charles/
See more here: http://thestreetsofstcharles.com/2011/c ... t-charles/








