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	<title>Photography - Showcase St. Louis :: RE: June 2008 In The City</title>
	<link>http://www.urbanstl.com/viewtopic.php?p=158945#158945</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.urbanstl.com//profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1238&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;bobh&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 4:49 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;So that's what Citygarden looks like all lit up.
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&amp;quot;Smiles of a Summer Night&amp;quot; and all.
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Thanks.
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	<title>Urban Living :: RE: St Louis Homeless and Panhandlers</title>
	<link>http://www.urbanstl.com/viewtopic.php?p=158944#158944</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.urbanstl.com//profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=182&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;innov8ion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:22 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mayorslay.com/polls/20090702homeless.asp&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;Mini Poll: Regional Homelessness Is A City Issue&lt;/a&gt;
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	<title>Retail, Restaurant, and Business Developments :: RE: Nike opening downtown St. Louis store</title>
	<link>http://www.urbanstl.com/viewtopic.php?p=158943#158943</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.urbanstl.com//profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=553&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Moorlander&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 3:00 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Isn't it just a nike cardinals shop?  I thought I read that they don't even sell shoes.
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	<title>Photography - Showcase St. Louis :: RE: Where in St. Louis am I?</title>
	<link>http://www.urbanstl.com/viewtopic.php?p=158942#158942</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.urbanstl.com//profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=182&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;innov8ion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:51 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Grover wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;Is it still called the Alexa? I drooled over their 3-bedrooms for months!&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;
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The Alexa is on hold so I dunno if it matters or not.
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	<title>Urban Living :: RE: What to do when people throw stuff on the ground?</title>
	<link>http://www.urbanstl.com/viewtopic.php?p=158941#158941</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.urbanstl.com//profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=182&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;innov8ion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:37 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Some lady went ape shit on me because the dog I was walking took a dump and I hadn't cleaned up the doo doo fast enough for her.  In the process, the dog's chain broke and she got loose.  I stood in wonder as I watched the dog swallow her whole.  Oh well, karma is a bitch sometimes.
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	<title>Urban Living :: RE: City's census challenge is accepted -- again</title>
	<link>http://www.urbanstl.com/viewtopic.php?p=158940#158940</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.urbanstl.com//profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=182&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;innov8ion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:34 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Have no fear, my friends.  ACORN has plans to increase population numbers in the City of St. Louis.
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	<title>Retail, Restaurant, and Business Developments :: RE: Nike opening downtown St. Louis store</title>
	<link>http://www.urbanstl.com/viewtopic.php?p=158939#158939</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.urbanstl.com//profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=182&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;innov8ion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 2:30 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;^ Yeah, I didn't have high expectations.  I don't see it hanging around too long.
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	<title>Photography - Showcase St. Louis :: RE: Where in St. Louis am I?</title>
	<link>http://www.urbanstl.com/viewtopic.php?p=158938#158938</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.urbanstl.com//profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=187&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;shinpickle&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:59 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
Topic Replies: 219&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;i'll wade into this thread...
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	<title>Retail, Restaurant, and Business Developments :: RE: A Taste of Luxurie 1303 Washington</title>
	<link>http://www.urbanstl.com/viewtopic.php?p=158937#158937</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.urbanstl.com//profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=924&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;JuiceInDogtown&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:57 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;If I can't look up a restaurants menu, or if a church I am considering visiting doesn't have a website, I don't go unless I've had some really good recommendations from people whose opinion I trust (like 50% of UrbanSTLers).
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	<title>Projects and Construction :: RE: Citygarden. Downtown Sculpture Park</title>
	<link>http://www.urbanstl.com/viewtopic.php?p=158936#158936</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.urbanstl.com//profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=924&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;JuiceInDogtown&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:41 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;^ Exactly, everyone.
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+1 for the 
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&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;MidcoastSTL wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;Hopefully Ted can learn to enjoy some of the things in life and not be such a douche bag.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;
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I for one can't wait to show it off!!!
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	<title>Urban Living :: RE: What to do when people throw stuff on the ground?</title>
	<link>http://www.urbanstl.com/viewtopic.php?p=158935#158935</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.urbanstl.com//profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=924&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;JuiceInDogtown&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:37 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
Topic Replies: 23&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;TGE-ATW wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;Honestly, there are too many complete animals in this city to risk my neck calling them out about trash.  Yesterday I honked at two guys for running a stop sign in front of me when I had the right of way.  They pulled over and let me pass and then followed me around for about five minutes yelling stuff out the windows and threatening me.  These are the type of guys who are often doing the littering and they come from a culture in which ANY perceived affront MUST be met with a disproportionate and usually violent (verbal or physical) response.  Even when they are completely in the wrong.  The problem is that they don't have any concept of right and wrong and they are consumed with the need to be perceived as tough and dangerous. Seriously.  We all know that there are people in this city who kill each other over hamburgers, I am not going to get my ass kicked for calling somebody out over their litter.  Cowardly? Probably, but the truth of the matter is that plenty of the &amp;quot;people&amp;quot; that I see littering really would attack you for calling them on it.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;
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Exactly.  The notion that you should &amp;quot;call people out&amp;quot; especially when said peoples are most likely scum bags raised with this mentality is complete and utter ignorance.
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	<title>Transportation Projects :: RE: Obama Urban League Speech--High Speed Rail in Midwest</title>
	<link>http://www.urbanstl.com/viewtopic.php?p=158934#158934</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.urbanstl.com//profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=182&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;innov8ion&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:16 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
Topic Replies: 132&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;ricke002 wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;&lt;table width=&quot;90%&quot; cellspacing=&quot;1&quot; cellpadding=&quot;3&quot; border=&quot;0&quot; align=&quot;center&quot;&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;genmed&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;innov8ion wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;quote&quot;&gt;^ You're quick to poke fun, but will you put your money where your mouth is?  I'm not the one with the ludicrous idea that flying demand will drop to 1950's level.  Seriously now...
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Just trying to keep the to the topic at hand.  Bring up this stuff in a different thread if you feel it to be that important.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;
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It was kind of pertinent to the discussion because folks were debating the pros/cons of various modes of transportation.  It simply isn't reasonable at all to suggest that world flying demand will drop to 1950's level.  I mean, the population has more than doubled since then.  See the graphic below from the Pew Center on Climate Control for a more realistic view of transportation mode composition over time: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pewclimate.org/technology/overview/transportation&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; class=&quot;postlink&quot;&gt;http://www.pewclimate.org/technology/overview/transportation&lt;/a&gt;
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Now a 220mph train is high speed.  Let's see if there's any political will behind the study.
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	<title>Urban Living :: RE: City's census challenge is accepted -- again</title>
	<link>http://www.urbanstl.com/viewtopic.php?p=158933#158933</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.urbanstl.com//profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=37&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;steve&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:13 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;No one actually lives in St. Louis
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	<title>Residential Development :: RE: Michigan and Magnolia - New Construction</title>
	<link>http://www.urbanstl.com/viewtopic.php?p=158932#158932</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.urbanstl.com//profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=26&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;metzgda&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:07 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Here is an article about the new homes built.  I've also posted a picture of the corner home below from the article.  Unfortunately this is the only home with one side of full face brick.  At least they did to it on the corner lot of the street.  Good to see they are affordable and I would say they are of decent urban nature.  Definately a huge plus over what was there.  Kacie Starr Triplett is definately a great alderman - we need more like her.
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	<title>Transportation Projects :: RE: Obama Urban League Speech--High Speed Rail in Midwest</title>
	<link>http://www.urbanstl.com/viewtopic.php?p=158931#158931</link>
	<description>Author: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.urbanstl.com//profile.php?mode=viewprofile&amp;u=1684&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Dredger&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2009 1:04 pm (GMT -6)&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;span class="postbody"&gt;Downloaded the report and glanced rather quickly but didn't read the report in depth.  What I'm curious about is why create competing interests right now between two routes and two types of service, 110 mph inter city on the existing amtrak route that would serve Joilet, Blomington versus true HSR @ 220 mph on a different routing.   Why not emphasize the current routing for a piece of the stimulus funds and then work off the success of increased rail service.
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Finally, the new HSR routing avoids Joilet if not mistaken.  That is why Kankakee is listed as a station (the last time I was in Kankakee was years ago to canoe down the river).
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