I don't think it has anything to do with downtown StL vs downtown Clayton. Imo most of these residents either work in mid county/Clayton, WashU or the BJC medical campus so it makes since to be closer to their work. I also think there are more high end restaurants and shopping closer to Clayton. Hopefully BPV and 300 help restore the balance.
stlgasm wrote: ↑Jan 10, 2018I attended the meeting tonight, but didn't speak or stay till the end, because it was clear that the mayor and board of aldermen were solidly in favor of the development. I don't know the official outcome of the meeting, but I have a hunch it passed unanimously based on the comments from the board.
I am most impressed with the Clayton mayor, Harold Sanger. He is approachable, well-spoken, and unapologetically progressive. And he completely shot down every point raised in opposition to the proposed development, point-by-point. He was direct without being condescending, and ultimately made the case in favor of the tower even stronger. The opposition resorted to the predictable NIMBY talking points--not enough parking, allusions to backroom deals, fears of overbuilding, increased traffic, blah blah blah. Mayor Sanger and several alderpersons challenged every one of their baseless claims, and it was abundantly clear that the few vocal opponents weren't going to be satisfied no matter what.
I found it humorous that one of the NIMBYs who spoke against the tower was a resident of the Maryland Walk high-rise. He complained that increased density is not good for Clayton, and there won't be enough parking. Then Mayor Sanger promptly shot down his arguments, explaining that when Maryland Walk (the high-rise the man LIVES IN) was proposed, the neighbors nearby rabidly opposed it, but now it's a welcome addition to the fabric of downtown Clayton. I almost stood up and applauded-- it was so satisfying to hear this guy get put in his place.
Anyway, I have yet to hear the official outcome of the hearing, but it sounded like it was going to sail through. Very proud of Clayton's elected officials-- they definitely understand that Clayton's urban character is its biggest selling point, and they share a common vision that increased density and walkability are key to enhancing its appeal.
I did not attend the meeting but I'm willing to bet the gentleman who spoke out against this development and lives in the Maryland Walk is non other than Dr. Andrew Galakatos. He has been very outspoken about his position and is the man behind this idea: http://www.urbanstl.com/forum/viewtopic ... um#p285020
You are correct, moorlander! He is mentioned by name in the STLToday article. It was pretty obvious that they are bitter because they think their views will be impacted, which is stupid because what's uglier than looking down on a big surface parking lot.
And at worst it blocks a view of Brentwood/Richmond Heights. Everyone knows that the view that people pay for! haha
Did the folks in the Clayton on the Park Tower ever get their big-screen video of the sunrise that 212 S. Meramec agreed to give them?
Why doesn't KP Development just build their own damn parking spaces? It's like they're trying to force a competing developer to do it for them.
http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... a932f.html
http://www.stltoday.com/business/local/ ... a932f.html
Park Tower*
Clayton On The Park is across the street to the north. It blocked the sunset views from the 7-Up Building when it was built in the late '90s.
I really hope the webcam feed did get put it. It's almost Atlas Obscura worthy.
aprice wrote:Park Tower*
Clayton On The Park is across the street to the north. It blocked the sunset views from the 7-Up Building when it was built in the late '90s.
I really hope the webcam feed did get put it. It's almost Atlas Obscura worthy.
Don’t for get the $500k added to the coffers of the condo association in addition to the CCTV feed.
Not that I know of but I have my doubts on thisjshank83 wrote:Is there any kind of update on this?
I heard they've been negotiating with Koman, but I believe they've reached some sort of agreement. I'm going to fish for more info later this week. I'll update if I hear anything new.
It's also on the Board of Alderman outstanding projects list agenda for tonight.
"Project received zoning approval on January 9, 2018. Awaiting applicant’s submittal of building permit plans and applications".
There is a "due date" of 10/15/18 for what it's worth.
It's also on the Board of Alderman outstanding projects list agenda for tonight.
"Project received zoning approval on January 9, 2018. Awaiting applicant’s submittal of building permit plans and applications".
There is a "due date" of 10/15/18 for what it's worth.
Biz Journals is showing this as under construction. Anyone been by the site recently?
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/map ... cts-in-the
Shaw Park Apartments
Location 8049 Forsyth Boulevard
Description 24-story, 264-unit luxury apartment building. The develompent would also include a 373-space parking garage and retail space on the ground floor.
Owner/Developer Flaherty & Collins Properties
Cost $70 million
Status Under Construction
Estimated Completion N/A
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/map ... cts-in-the
Shaw Park Apartments
Location 8049 Forsyth Boulevard
Description 24-story, 264-unit luxury apartment building. The develompent would also include a 373-space parking garage and retail space on the ground floor.
Owner/Developer Flaherty & Collins Properties
Cost $70 million
Status Under Construction
Estimated Completion N/A
If no one replies by around lunch time, I will drive by when I go home. I live down the street from it but have been out of town for the last week or so.pdm_ad wrote: ↑Aug 28, 2018Biz Journals is showing this as under construction. Anyone been by the site recently?
https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/map ... cts-in-the
Shaw Park Apartments
Location 8049 Forsyth Boulevard
Description 24-story, 264-unit luxury apartment building. The develompent would also include a 373-space parking garage and retail space on the ground floor.
Owner/Developer Flaherty & Collins Properties
Cost $70 million
Status Under Construction
Estimated Completion N/A
Their website says they are starting in 2018 so it has to be fairly close to start.
http://flco.com/company-properties/clay ... velopment/
Just drove by. There is some utility work going on the sidewalk but I don't think it's project related. Nothing else.
Well I can confirm by looking out my office window that nothing is going on there, but that was why I was asking.
Still haven't heard anything about this one in awhile. Site says they are going to start in 2018..... I have a feeling that isn't going to happen. I think everything is approved though, correct?
It’s finally moving forward. Koman and the apartment developer seem to have reached an agreement on parking.
https://www.claytonmo.gov/Home/Componen ... rash=False
https://www.claytonmo.gov/Home/Componen ... rash=False
Here is the resolution in the document posted.clayton1 wrote: ↑Nov 26, 2018It’s finally moving forward. Koman and the apartment developer seem to have reached an agreement on parking.
https://www.claytonmo.gov/Home/Componen ... rash=False
I guess the agreement means we will be seeing a new design for Forsyth Pointe if there is a share garage for both developments. Also think it is interesting that KP Development is part of Koman? I don't know fully but great to hear that both of those projects are moving forward.
Staff in conjunction with 8025 Acquisitions, LLC (Koman Properties) and Flaherty & Collins is developing a redevelopment plan for the quarter block located at the corner of Forsyth Boulevard and Brentwood Boulevard. The development includes a residential tower, office tower and a shared garage. Flaherty & Collins as part of their now-approved project entered into a funding agreement on March 14, 2017, by Ordinance No. 6604. Staff is now requesting Koman Properties enter into a funding agreement to offset the City’s costs to develop their portion of the plan which includes legal and financing professionals. The proposed agreement with Koman is substantially identical in amount and terms to the Flaherty & Collins agreement.
Really excited for this one to get moving. Clayton has a ton of momentum right now and continuing to improve the density as much as possible needs to continue on the near constant basis as it has for the last 5 years or so. This project will add a solid sized tower to the North end of Clayton. With the South end taken care of for the foreseeable future with Centene having 3 towers left to begin work on the drawing board and 220 Central being recently completed towards the Central/West of Clayton, this will provide solid balance to the last few years of development. Love this rendering and really hope the finished project looks like the below.
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Not sure when it will be made public, but a redesign has been issued for Shaw Park Tower and Forsyth Pointe. As stated in one of my above posts, the parking garage is now part of both developments (KP Development and Flaherty+Collins). It was confirmed to me that a redesign is incoming but my source didn't specify how much of a redesign. Trying to find out more.